#10 - Ryan Reynolds Sits Down With Us to Chat!

In this special episode of Beyond Brave, we sit down with none other than the hilarious and all-around amazing Ryan Reynolds. We talk about his incredible connection with our daughter Bella.

Ryan opens up about his visits to SickKids Hospital in Toronto, where he shared moments of kindness and laughter with Bella. He also talks about the tough stuff—grief, love, and how he’s learned to navigate loss in his own life. Spoiler alert: it’s way more emotional than we planned, but also filled with those moments that make you laugh and feel all the things.

We also dive into the lighter side of life with Ryan: rapid-fire questions about his favorite Canadian snacks (trust us, you’ll want to know about this), how he keeps parenting real with his kids, and why he’s still the same down-to-earth guy even with the fame and the funny socials.

This episode is an emotional rollercoaster, but it has the right balance of laughter, heart, and Canadiana. Trust us, you don’t want to miss it!

Chapters

• 0:00 Introduction to Beyond Brave
• 0:30 Special Guest: Ryan Reynolds
• 1:17 Ryan's Connection with Bella and SickKids
• 14:16 Deep Dive into Grief and Memories
• 43:11 Hilarious Office Pranks and Crazy Glue Stories
• 45:19 High School Shenanigans and Family Fun
• 46:39 Heartfelt Reflections on Family and Fame
• 49:51 A Touching Tribute to Bella and Final Thoughts

Transcript

Ryan Reynolds Sits Down With Us To Chat!

[00:00:00]

Introduction to Beyond Brave

Kyla: Welcome to Beyond Brave. I'm Kyla, and here's where we dive into stories of hope, bravery, and laughter. Millions followed our journey with my daughter Bella, but now it's time to go beyond the headlines and highlight reels to those raw, real moments I haven't shared anywhere else. So are you ready to go Beyond Brave?

Let's dive in.

Bella: But if you want it to be perfect, you can make it perfect. 

Special Guest: Ryan Reynolds

Kyla: Hi, Bravelings. I am so excited to tell you who our guest is today. It's Ryan Reynolds. I can't hold it in any longer. He does not need an introduction, of course, but I'll give you a couple little reminders. He is a Canadian gem of a human. He's an actor.

I think you'll find out through our podcast today when you see and listen. Uh, he misses calling as a therapist for sure because my goodness did we have like a [00:01:00] sesh with him today? Lyle, and I when we talked to him he was also man's or man's he was like world's sexiest man alive in 2010 And I guess getting to the point of why we had him on our show Is his deep connection with bella?

Ryan's Connection with Bella and SickKidsRyan's Connection with Bella and SickKids

Kyla: He had a real strong connection with bella a true friendship bella And I worked with Ryan on numerous, uh, SickKids campaigns. He is a massive, huge supporter of SickKids Hospital in Toronto. And so we talk about that connection with him as well, as well as some fire, some rapid fire questions, which are really, really funny.

Um, I'm really proud to say that I made Ryan Reynolds laugh. So that's off my bucket list. And so without any further, oh, and one more thing. He legit makes A Swift Tree Center commercial for Lyle. It's hilarious, you guys. I'm so excited for you to listen. [00:02:00] Let's start our interview with Ryan Reynolds.

Ryan: I don't know how else to start other than saying, um, condolences to you, to you both. I don't know. Um, yeah, I know that, uh, how inadequate words are, are, are in comparison to what you might, might feel, but I just, yeah, want to, that's probably the only place I know to start from with this, but, um, yeah, and I, I'm very happy to, to, to chat with you.

I'm also very careful to, I don't want to center myself in this. I just, you know, whatever, I saw your message and I, you know, want to just, you 

Lyle: know, Well, we invited you, of course, so you don't have to feel that way. 

Kyla: Yeah, and honestly, you were thoughtful and generous, and we just appreciate this so much, and thank you for that.

Oh, 

Lyle: my pleasure. I wanted to start with your introduction, Skyla. Yes, 

Kyla: okay, so I wanted to, I know you [00:03:00] haven't, we've met, uh, but you haven't met my husband, Lyle, this guy over here. Yeah, it's really nice to meet you. I'll never 

Ryan: forget his stache, though, already. I'm like 

Lyle: Appreciate it. I get it. 

Ryan: And yes, mine's 

Lyle: gray now.

So it's never gonna happen. You know, I'm finding like Seven or eight and there might be one or two new gray ones in there Every month. I think you I think if anyone's earned their 

Ryan: gray hairs, it's it's you guys if you have them you you Enjoy every one of them. So, 

Lyle: you know, we do have a bit of a connection though.

Although i'm just meeting you now Uh, it was 20 years ago. So back in 2005. Do 

Kyla: I know the story? 

Lyle: Uh, yeah, you probably would So just down the road from where we live now Two hours away is the University of Regina, where Kyla and I met. At that point, we were just friends. Now, wouldn't you imagine, at the exact same time, in the exact same city, who was there?

Our boy, Ryan Reynolds. You were recording here! [00:04:00]

Ryan: We filmed there. It was the winter too, and you know that I've never seen this, uh, before or since, but, um, the camera, it got down to about minus 40, which is an interesting temperature because minus 40 Fahrenheit and minus 40 Celsius are kind of the same. 

Bella: I 

Ryan: don't know why, who decided that?

Nonsense. But the camera, this is back when we used film. Had to be wrapped in those heat packs, you know, the ones that you put in your pockets. Had to be wrapped entirely in that, otherwise it would just freeze solid. And you couldn't shoot. 

Lyle: I like to think so. We both got our big break in Regina at the same time.

I met my lovely bride, Kyla. And you had one of your first, you know, big feature films. So yeah, that's pretty crazy. That was full 

Ryan: circle. Well, yeah, that was, you know, that's also like, I don't know why though, that, you know, certain movies like do I have theories, but why certain movies in endure and others don't, you know, and, and just friends has become sort of a, like a Christmas, uh, like one that [00:05:00] people tend to revisit each year at Christmas time.

And I guess it is a Christmas movie, but, um, boy, did I have fun making that sucker. And Regina, my brother's a Mountie. So he, he spent a ton of time in Regina as well. Yeah. Oh, 

Ryan (2): wow. 

Ryan: Cool. 

Kyla: Well, you totally ruined it. I was Lyle ruined my intro for him. I was going to introduce him in a real, like, funny way, um, but no, you made everything all nice.

But this is, no, no, no, this 

Ryan: is, uh, this is the magic of editing, right? Your producer, who I know is top notch, uh, will tell you that you can just do your intro now, and then plop it on the beginning of this sucker, unless we're live, in which case we're all doomed. No, I should have warned you, we're definitely not live.

Not live, no, no, 

Kyla: no. Lyle's practicing his. Practicing is cool, but not impressed face for you, so you can shatter it. Well, I'm not too impressed 

Lyle: after Ryan slides into my wife's DMs the other night. 

Ryan: Right? Yeah, don't, don't, don't, you can't stop me, my friend. I don't even, like, dude, I don't [00:06:00] even, I don't even, like, most of the time don't use social media.

Lately, just because I've been, I was so underwater working on, uh, Deadpool and Wolverine that I, I just, I, I, all I want now is to just be a lot more present with my kids and just, so, uh, yeah, it was actually Sophia who caught your DM and, and, yeah. 

Kyla: Oh, so funny. She's the hero. Okay, well, I was going to explain how we came to even Have you as a guest on our podcast, and it I have to give credit to my friend Stacy, as this text that we had between us was so hilarious.

And I shared that text on my Instagram stories tagging you without thinking you would actually reply. Like I totally thought I had to go through your team and like send emails and whatnot. And you just replied like, yeah, let's do it. When are you free? And I was just like, 

Ryan: I don't like I don't everything every like, I think a cheat code in life is to just Fucking do it [00:07:00] yourself.

I mean, I don't, I mean, honestly, like, I think, you know, so many people who are lucky enough to do the job, I do have layers and layers of people. It's just a, it's crazy. And you actually don't form any emotional investment or connection with people if you Or always speaking through a third party or you're always, I just like every good thing that's ever happened to me in my business has happened from a relationship, not from, you know, a lucky break necessarily or, you know, um, it's, uh, it's relationships are kind of, I always think are kind of everything.

You know, we all fail, and then we all win sometimes, but when you fail, you, you, if you have those emotional connections and relationships, you're more likely to find a hand up from someone familiar than you are when you've spent your whole life isolated in a vacuum and never discussing it anyway. So I, I always definitely try to.

You know, have, um, have some, you know, yeah, real connected, just otherwise you're what's the point, you know, and, and we can get into [00:08:00] more of that in a minute when we, when we talk about how we met and 

Kyla: well, yeah, I was, I was going to start that conversation by going back to our first connection, which, uh, I wanted to ask you your perspective and, and if you could take us back to your first connection with Bella, like how, how you came to know her before reaching out to us and sharing your, uh, beautiful, ugly Christmas sweater.

Thank you. 

Ryan: Thank you. Um, well, Bella, I knew, I, I knew of Bella because she had just an absolutely hysterical Instagram presence and, you know, I love charisma. I mean, who doesn't, you know? And that, that kid, as the kids say, had the riz. Uh, so, I uh, yeah, I mean, it's not every day you can sort of see somebody who can reach out right through your little, you know, these little, rectangles we've duct taped to our face all day, every day, um, uh, who can reach out through there and kind of, you know, [00:09:00] fill a room in a way, you know, and, and, um, And I, I really like, you know, my SickKids Foundation, um, my relationship with the foundation and the hospital is, um, is pretty deep.

It started with a little kid, um, named Grace Bowen, um, who, who, who passed away and I'm still very close with her dad, uh, Greg, and her, and, and Grace's sister Mackenzie. And I, I, um, you know, I, I, I just years, I think it was 10 years ago or so, I, maybe less. I'm not sure, but I, I met them where I met them.

Haley Wickenheiser, who you, I'm sure you know, Oh yeah. Legend, uh, uh, extraordinaire, um, introduced me to the SickKids Foundation and that's, that's sort of how I, I got involved. And, and, and it is, certainly it's, it's for the kids in a way, but what I think people don't really realize is it's, it, for me it's actually, I would say, um, half and half.

It's, it's for the parents, you know, like I, I, there's a, I'm a parent, I have four kids, [00:10:00] I, I don't, I can't imagine, you know, the, the, the. What you've shouldered day in and day out, the lack of certainty, the kind of, you know, um, the feeling of placing your, your sort of faith and, uh, you know, heart in the hands of somebody else to help, um, you know, is, is something that I don't, you know, that isn't, uh, like a, you know, thankfully, a pain or, or a, or a position that I fully will ever understand and I hope I don't.

Um, So, you know, a lot of what I do with SickKids Foundation is, of course, I get to meet all these great kids, but generally the kids are pretty good, you know, they're like, no matter what is going on, they have a kind of, I find that fascinating. They're all sort of have a disposition that doesn't really project worry or, or even pain, even though they know they're in pain at times.

It's in the, um, You [00:11:00] know, but they, they, you know, most of them, you know, really feel cared for and it's like kids have a wisdom that we don't have, you know, we lose it in time and, and, and they, there is something and I'm not a particularly religious person, but there is something almost spiritually kind of advanced about kids.

at that age where there's a sense of, like, it's all gonna be okay. 

Lyle: I think they're just to live in the moment, right? That's what they always, whenever she was feeling good, she just snapped out of it and, like, lived that day. Just to have as much fun as she possibly could. And I, I bet that that's why it makes it that way.

Yeah, I mean, 

Ryan: the wet eyes of parents is the thing I always, like, find is the thing that, you know, sticks with you just as much as a, as a, as a sick kid. So, yeah, I'm sorry, I didn't, I didn't mean to jump on what you were saying, so 

Kyla: No, I just wanted to, I wanted to make sure that Like, from Lyle and I personally, we want to thank you because SickKids [00:12:00] was such a huge part of Bella's life, not only for her transplant and getting her that, but Bella had so many rare conditions, and those rare conditions had symptoms that no one in the world had seen before, and SickKids, the support for them supported And, helping her.

And so anyone that supports sick kids like you, it's just, it's absolutely life changing for kids like her. So we wanted to say thank you. 

Ryan: Yeah, oh man, of course, of course. I, look, I, I, I, um, I know what they do over there and I, and also know what it must feel like for someone to, well, I've never dealt with anything remotely close to the kind of, um, emotional resonance and pain that you, you guys have experienced.

I do know that like, you know, the, the source of most, you know, real anguish is feeling alone. You know, like, if you've ever had a problem, this is a very, you know, microcosmic example of that, but if you've ever had a problem where you feel like [00:13:00] you're the only person on earth who's experiencing this problem, that's a, that is a tough Psychic leap to get over, um, to, to move forward.

Um, so when someone like, you know, Bella is experiencing symptoms and conditions that are unique, uh, to her and that a lot of people haven't seen before, you really wanna feel that, that the, the folks who are trained and are circling the wagons around her really kind of understand and make her feel like we're all in this together and we all, you know, it's just a classic.

chunk of humanity that is always effective is that feeling of Work togetherness, you know, we will do everything we can all together at the same time Um, and I know they do that at sick kids and it's one of the reasons i'm so passionate about advancing their agenda and everything Anything I can do to help them 

Bella: Yeah, I think one 

Lyle: of the biggest parts too is that that's it's behind closed doors what's happening in there and it's a shame because you [00:14:00] are The parents are really feeling a little bit alone in there.

And so, I mean, that's what we're trying to do. And that's what you've done. Maybe in a big way, it's kind of opened up and talked about, you know, what's happening behind there. So I think that's, that's really helpful. 

Ryan (3): Yeah. Yeah. 

Deep Dive into Grief and MemoriesDeep Dive into Grief and Memories

Ryan (3): Well, 

Lyle: grief 

Ryan: is, 

Lyle: grief 

Ryan: is something that people don't, you know, discuss all that much.

And it's a, it's so complicated. I mean, like, I, I don't know, I had a, I had a fairly, you know, like a lot of sons, I had a tricky relationship with my dad, but he's been gone, I don't know, nine, almost, almost nine and a half years, almost ten years now. I still have those moments where you're just walking around on some random Thursday and it's like somebody removed their glove and then took to my cheek, my damned insulin cheek, and smacked me across the face with grief all of a sudden and, you know, I, I've experienced loss with my, I lost one of my best friends, uh, uh, this September, this last September.

And like, [00:15:00] yeah, you kind of, it's one of those ongoing sorts of, uh, uh, journeys, you know, and you kind of have it. I don't know, like I think of like, I don't mean to be all that spiritual or esoteric or anything, but I always sort of think of like memories are interesting because they also sort of become a place or a feeling, like, that you visit in a way.

You know, and I, I think of grief a little bit like that, like it's, obviously, the pain you're experiencing when you're in grief is, is, you know, unexpressed love and it's all the, you know, that's, that's how I, how I think it, framing it that way is, at least makes it make sense a little bit more, but, you know, I think of my memories of People, um, certainly my friend who passed and, and even my dad and, and, and others you as, as sort of a feeling in a, in a place that I get to visit where, you know, the floors and the walls and the windows and the curtains are all made of aspects of their personality or their, you know, and you can kind of wander around in [00:16:00] there from time to time and I almost like don't love photos for that reason because a photo will preclude it.

What the room, what the temperature was in the room or what the, what the wind felt like in that second or like what their hand felt like in your hand or, you know, it's, uh, it suddenly isolates this one sense and, um, so I don't know. I love memories for that and I love experiencing the memories without necessarily having to go through a photo album because it's, uh, that's more vivid this way.

Lyle: Yeah, that's a really funny way to put it. You know, I. I can look at the videos, I can see the photos, but I'll think of like Bella, the last time she gave me a kiss on my cheek, and I can still feel it. It's crazy, the way you put it that way. 

Kyla: Maybe four, I want to say. I showed him a picture of you, and he said, Dad?

I said, Dad. 

Ryan: Oh. No, no, no. Dad. No, no, wait a minute. Daddy looks like a young Tom Selleck. 

Bella: Oh. He 

Ryan: [00:17:00] does. Yes, he does. I'll take it. I'll take that. Yeah. Yeah. I'll 

Ryan (3): take that. 

Lyle: I was okay with Ryan Reynolds, but Tom Selleck. No, no, Tom 

Ryan: Selleck. That right there was an 80s dreamboat right there. That resonates with me.

Yeah. Yeah, right? It feels, it feels home. Like home, doesn't it? Yeah, 

Kyla: yeah. I was going to mention too, like one of Like, our favorite memory with you, of course, was when we met you for the first time at SickKids. You had visited Bella right after her bowel transplant. And of course, which she 

Ryan: referred to as, 

Kyla: meh.

Uh, but I 

Ryan: How do you feel? Was it sick? I think I said something like, were you scared? Was it, did it work? Did you feel good? And she just went, 

Ryan (2): meh. 

Ryan: And that she also remembered that she liked the, liked the hospital food, like preferred hospital, the hospital food. 

Kyla: Preferred the roast beef sandwiches. She had like four that day.

Lyle: Really, really kind of hits home for us, because what the hell, I was thinking we were making pretty good meals. Yeah. 

Ryan: Not even come [00:18:00] anywhere near mass produced roast beef sandwiches, I'm afraid. Yeah, but I had all kids though, right? They 

Ryan (2): all, they're all like that. Yeah. 

Ryan: Our still, 

Kyla: I had a confession from that day and I, I wanted to ask you if, if you recalled it or not, but I was so embarrassed because like, it was a surprise, like that your team had come up, said, okay, Ryan, and has time really wants to see Bella and, uh, like too, I don't, I, well, I, this is like, 

Ryan: I don't have, I love the team.

I have Sophia. And I think we had, uh, our, our, our, uh, emissary from SickKids. 

Kyla: Yes, yeah. 

Ryan: So, you know, I'm just correcting the record because, uh, that sounds like guys who have those little earpieces that say, like, Red One is on the move, uh, this is, uh, Red Eagle, Red Eagle, come in. I would love to have guys like that.

That sounds 

Lyle: awesome. I think it sounds more like a rap crew and you have like 10 coming. I actually 

Ryan: am gonna, uh, form uh, uh, a pretty nerdy entourage Yeah. Of people. I think that's sort of my, [00:19:00] my new New Year's resolution. 

Kyla: But I remember, sorry, 

Ryan: go ahead. Yeah, no, 

Kyla: I remember talking to my nurse and we were right at the door and Bella was just sitting at her hospital bed waiting to have a chat with you and I was.

I handed my phone to our nurse who was standing right at the door, and I didn't know you were right there. And I was like, just, just keep it rolling. And then you walked in like two seconds later, I'm like, oh, that's embarrassing. 

Ryan: I, I feel like I, that's, keep it rolling, uh, is something I hear quite often, uh, when I'm, when I'm making, making movies and stuff.

So I, it's, uh, all, when you say that, my brain just tastes good. like butterscotch. So I don't, I'm not gonna hear, I'm not gonna really focus on that. But I do, I do remember you, um, I, I, my much stronger visual memory, like I can't do dates, I'm terrible at dates, but I remember exactly where you were standing, and I was on the side, I went, sort of got down, and I was talking to Bell over the, [00:20:00] Uh, at her sort of bedside and I remember you over there and I was, it was fun to watch you watch her watch me.

That's exactly, and 

Kyla: you noticed 

Bella: that? 

Ryan: Well quickly, it's also because I'm, I'm a, on the inside I'm a panicky, anxiety ridden person who's just constantly reading the room for threats. So I, but I also want to make sure that you feel You know, that's your baby, right? So I want to make sure that you, you, what, the way I'm talking to her, cause I try to not talk to them like they're, you know, 

Bella: little 

Ryan: kids, they've dealt with more in their short life than I've ever known, you know, struggles that I've ever known, so, you know, I try to, you know, I never know.

So I just want to look at the parent like, 

Ryan (2): Oh, 

Ryan: yeah, 

Kyla: no, I was just so impressed and. happy with how your focus was on her and she could chat with you like you were just like a bestie that entered the room to [00:21:00] have a visit. 

Ryan: I mean, I, you know, I'm always happy to take time for like, I don't even care that she was sick.

I take time for a student of comedy. That was it. She was like, she was like, I left, I left like a little bit better at my job. 

Ryan (3): Just a skosh. 

Ryan: I mean, she had timing. She was very tight. I mean, that, that kind of, um, Kind of also, I wanna ask you, how do you, yeah. Do you guys refer to Bella? Like, how do you like to refer to, you refer to her in past tense, like she was, or she is.

Like, some pe people are different that way. I've talked to different parents who are, you know, 

Kyla: for, for me, like I talk about her as what she did, um, past tense, but her legacy and what we wanna carry on for her, like she would want, we, you know, it's like this is what's happening now in her honor type. She 

Lyle: is still, uh, having an impact.

Yeah. But I mean. But we do prefer in past tense. I think I just you don't think about it. It just happens, right? I mean, to maybe be [00:22:00] talk about our current tense, maybe be more intentional. And I can understand why people might do that. As far as I've noticed, that's that isn't the case. 

Ryan: Yeah, I, I don't, I've met, I've met at this point in, in ten years, probably thousands of parents and everyone's, everyone's different that way.

Some refer to, in present tense, some refer, so I always, I, I sometimes catch myself like, uh, Wait, wait, hold on. What do you, you know, how do you like it? But, um, how is Waylon Wyss? Yeah. Is it Waylon? Is Waylon named after Waylon Jennings? No. 

Kyla: No, but yeah. 

Lyle: I always fear, because when people ask that, because it always happens, it's like, oh, are they going to quiz me about Waylon Jennings?

Because I like it, but I don't know. Yeah, me 

Ryan: too. 

Lyle: Waylon 

Ryan: guy. I know the name. I couldn't really tell you. I wish. Cool people could be like, oh, well, the B sides from the album he did in the, I don't know. 

Lyle: Yeah, that's my biggest fear is I say 

Ryan: I 

Lyle: am a fan and 

Ryan: then we go down that road. 

Kyla: And we're really just like, you picked 

Ryan: [00:23:00] it.

I can tell you about the, uh, the Anya box set all day long, but no, I don't know the, uh, stuff. Um, so, so Waylon, but how does Waylon, uh, what is that job kind of, I don't mean to quiz you and tell me to, um, what do you, uh, like, how do you, how do you handle that with, You know, a six year old, he was five, I assume, when, is that right?

I'm saying it dates a year and a half. 

Bella: Yeah, 

Ryan: we had to approach that. 

Kyla: Yeah, we had, thankfully, like, I had a friend who works with, uh, social work and kids in Toronto. She's very well versed in that, thankfully, and she was really a close comfort for Lyle and I when Bella had passed, and we had had that final week in Toronto, and so she was really good at how, helping us, Like basically let him know that Bella had passed and just be very blunt.

Be very, uh, clear, clear blunt. Yeah. Don't sugarcoat, [00:24:00] because then the question might come, like if you had said like, she passed because she was sick, that could invoke fear in him anytime someone's like, oh, I'm sick today. Right? Yeah. So it was like, no, she passed away from a very rare complication or mm-hmm

An illness. A disease. A disease. Mm-hmm . So like using that kind of terminology. And then also that. We had to be very blunt with him and rip the band aid off and say no, she had, she had died, like she's not, we couldn't just sugarcoat and be like, you know what, she's happier in heaven now, or she's okay, but she's here, because then he might, 

Lyle: she is with us.

I mean, we feel it, but to a five year old, you just have to make sure they're not thinking, oh, she's going to show up tomorrow. Yeah, just gone. Yeah, 

Ryan: probably evolves too, I would assume. I mean, it's an ever evolving kind of thing. He's fully understanding now. 

Kyla: He was, yeah. Like, I mean, they both are, were, like, very mature understanding for their ages, and I think Waylon, um, that way as well.

I was very [00:25:00] surprised with the way he handled it, and, yeah, he's very mature for a five year old the way he, he did. It was Maybe with that. Yeah, yeah, 

Ryan: well, but I mean, it's, it's, it's what, to me, it's always wild how that kids have a kind of weird wisdom that is, it's almost like, it's almost like the world kind of erases it from their consciousness as they grow older and start to deal with cynicism and deal with, you know, all of life's little surprises and things like that.

You know, um, but I also know, I also noticed that, that honesty, even with my own kids, when it's something that's trivial, you know, just being kind of completely blunt and clear and never, you know, sugarcoating it and just, you know, allowing them to kind of, one of the things we've been doing lately is like letting them work out their own problems, because like You know, when I was a kid, it was like the sun came up and my dad or mom would look at me and go, okay, 

Bella: I'll call.

Yeah. 

Ryan: And off I went [00:26:00] and I would go on my bike alone or with friends all day, like no supervision, I would have to, I have to work out my own problems. I'd have to resolve conflicts with people. I get hurt. I do all these things that sort of prevent, you know, our, our kids from doing that. So I'm trying lately to sort of manufacture a version of that, even if we're.

Not, like, letting our kids just take off on their bicycles in the middle of Manhattan, which no one would ever do in a, in a, in a, in a civilized world. And just say, hey, you guys talk to each other. Like, yeah, figure it out. You don't want to hear how you communicate. You know, sometimes it's horrible and, uh, I instantly regret it.

And then other times you're like, Oh, that's good. You guys did a good job. 

Lyle: Yeah. I found with us, because now it's just the two of us and one kid right now. Um, We gotta not overwhelm him. So, okay, Kyla, you take this one. I'm just It's a nice way to be lazy, but I'm like, you can't overwhelm him with two pants.

That's not fair. [00:27:00]

Ryan: Yeah. But I also imagine he's, um, you know, so much of your energy was focused on Bella and her, you know, and her condition. Yeah. So I wonder how, you know, I wonder how he's It's probably another adjustment to, you know, focus exclusively on this little guy who, you know, has been there with you guys throughout this whole journey and kind of, you know, yeah.

Kyla: He really brings us back to earth sometimes when we get too deep, too deep in our grief and too numb to everything around us. He brings us back and he's like, okay, this is, yes, you are going through this. I'm going through this too. And then he carries us on like, okay, but we're still going to have fun.

We're going to still look forward to this, you know, and he brings us back to that. And I, that's just, I think that's so much better for a six year old. 

Ryan: Yeah, there's a great, um, I don't know if you've seen it, but there's a, there's an amazing, um, apple movie called The Boy, the [00:28:00] Horse, The Boy, the Fox, the Mole, and the Horse, I think it's called.

Um, it's like 45 minutes long. It's, it's like one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen, but there's all these like, Little, you know, the little, it's this little boy who's kind of, you know, we think is sort of lost in the, in the, in the snowy wilderness and he befriends a little, like, mole or I think it's a mole.

Um, and, you know, he's, the mole asks him questions like, what do you want to be when you grow up? And the kid sort of thinks for a long time and then says, kind, you know, and then, you know, they continue on in their journey and they talk kind of throughout this little 45 minute thing. It's, I find it so calming that they.

They, they really captured what the curiosity and kind of wonder and lack of censorship a kid has. And there's a moment where they think, just they think you're in a storm and it's the worst. possible moment and he just, the kid feels like it's never going to pass and he's sitting there with this fox and the mole and the horse and, um, and they sort of, they immediately snap him back to the present by saying something like, you know, in the worst of moments when you feel this way, just [00:29:00] look right under your nose and it's very much what you just described where you got, you're looking at your, your son sometimes I imagine and it snaps you back and lets you kind of reprioritize something that is, you know, that you can get, we can get lost in the, um, Dumbest, you know, thought a problem.

And you know, you go, God, if I could, if 30 years from now I could look back and go, I was worried about that. Yeah, 

Kyla: yeah. 

Ryan: Yeah. 

Kyla: I, uh, before, before we go on to some, I have some really fun, rapid fire questions for you. Uh, 

Ryan: I'm gonna answer in Slowmo though. 

Kyla: Oh, okay. Fine. Okay, fine. Uh, but I, I wanted to, um, ask you.

Bravery was very important to Bella. She took her very seriously and she really wanted to help other kids be brave. So is there a moment in your life where you had to dig deep and find some courage and you felt brave? 

Ryan: Yeah, I mean, I don't, I don't know. I think that, I, yeah, [00:30:00] I mean, I, I worked in a very kind of odd business for a long Time and I've never really felt like I think like a lot of people feel this way I think more than would care to even admit But I've never felt like I fully belong in it or I felt you know you always feel a little of that imposter syndrome or you know, but that kind of pressing on And I felt brave in this industry a number of times because I've done things that I didn't think I could do or I didn't think I was going to be good at or I didn't.

So I think of courage or bravery also as a, as a, as a willingness to trust yourself, you know? So I've had all those moments where the voices are screaming inside my noggin, you know, that to get out of Dodge or, you know, forget about this. I mean, I, I, I can't tell you how many times, but I, I, you know, the, the belief that it'll be okay, um, is also accompanied by, uh, something that I only think happens, you know, a as [00:31:00] with kids, and with people who are a little bit older, is this willingness to suck.

Uh, you know, like, to be alright sucking at something is like a, it's the smart, it's just so, I just think it's like the best. Yeah, it gives you so many advantages and the kids too kids are like, you know I say this to my kids too like don't waste your mistakes like mistakes are like where the good stuff is, right?

Like we all you know i've made mistakes in my life and i've worked i've been around people who had the grace to kind of allow me to you know, uh process it be ashamed of it if I want or Um, but then also give them the grace to kind of learn from it and kind of help Others with it, you know with that so like I always look at mistakes It's like these little tiny hidden gems that feel like they're trying to stab you in the face But they're actually just trying to wake you up to something and 

Lyle: yeah, that's perfect.

That's cool It reminds me of just I suck at hockey, but I don't I decide I'm like, that's why you have to 

Ryan: leave 

Lyle: Canada immediately I'm like, all right. [00:32:00] I'm still gonna coach Wayland's hockey team And I look forward to it every time now, even though I'm like, ah, man, I'm just the worst hockey player, but I know how to skate, but what, what business do I have coaching hockey?

Ryan: No, but, but, but, but coach is like, it has nothing to do with that. No. Your job is just to make them all believe in themselves. You know, I read this great, uh, uh, or I listened to a podcast. It was Michael Lewis's podcast a long time ago. And he talked about coach fits. It's worth looking up. But the coach was interesting because.

He, you know, was this legendary coach, but he started in these, like, with these younger kids in these baseball games or something. Sorry, I don't mean the tangent, but this one's worth it. Um, the coach kind of You know, they were getting their butts handed to them in this baseball game, and they finally managed to kind of tie it up.

And I'm totally butchering this, but the core of it will be right. Um, and he looks at this kid who's been sitting on the bench the whole season, and he's set, basically he's out of pictures, and he looks at this kid and he says, [00:33:00] you're up, get out there, you know, and you're going to do this. And the kid just is panicking.

He's just, wow, what am I going to do? And um, and he says, you, something like, You are the exact person I want out there for this exact thing. And it just, like, meant so much to me, and I remember seeing it happen in real life when, you know, I'm a co owner of Wrexham AFC, which is a football club in North Wales, and, um, we were down to the last second where, uh, where to get out of the National League, and it's the most impossible You can edit all of this out, by the way.

Um, I pulled a string in my back, but Um, I I We were in the National League, and it was impossible to get out. Like, it was just, like, one of the hardest leagues to get out of, and they have a pyramid system, so you just keep wanting to go up. But, um, we We were top The game was We looked like we were I think it was 3 2.

We were up, and if not I can't believe We got a [00:34:00] penalty, and there was no time left. And we had our 40 year old goalkeeper in there, Ben Foster, former Premier League player who said, who started at Wrexham and said, I'll come back for eight games to get you guys over the line. And it was just the, the, I don't think I've ever felt tension like that in that stadium.

And this team we were, we were playing were Knotts County and they were amazing. I mean, they, they pushed us all year and we pushed them. We both finished with a hundred, I think 111 points and they had 107, which was a record for any league. And we just couldn't believe this chase. And the, this kid gets out there to kick the penalty and penalties 

Ryan (3): are like, 

Ryan: you know, usually they're, they're much more in favor of the kick, the guy who's kicking the ball than the goalkeeper.

Yeah. Yeah. And this Knotts County kid goes and he just boots a laser and, and our goalkeeper, Ben Foster, saves, dives the right, saves it. And the whole place [00:35:00] goes completely nuts. But what you, I think his name was Kedwin, the guy that kicked it. But what you don't realize is that kid, who was probably 20, 24 or something, it's just a couple years ago.

Uh, he, that was like a, to him felt like the end of the world. You know, he went back over, and his coach, he was inconsolable. His dad was there. You know, he was, uh, we learned about, uh, all of this afterwards, and then, so, we ended up going up to the next league, but they went into a playoff, so they had to, they had to battle it out with another team, and that's hell, because anything can happen in football, and usually it doesn't work out for you that way.

And they did. They battled all, and then the same thing happened to them, where last second, a penalty. And that their coach, Luke Williams was his name, looked at that guy, same guy, and went, you're up. Yeah. He just couldn't believe it. He was like, Me, me, and he went in and he was the exact right guy for the job.

And he went in and he fucking kicked that ball through the net. Like, and it was just this, we loved it because, [00:36:00] you know, everybody won. You know, it was like one of those things that, that failure that he had before would never have felt like this. And had he not had that failure, you know, if he had not experienced that kind of feeling, we wouldn't have felt that.

So we were, you know, weirdly rooting for this team, even though we've been in this lock, you know, locked horns all, um, all, all season. And it was just one of those moments I'll never forget. And just a lesson that is reiterated over and over again. How's your rapid fire questions going so far? 

Kyla: Well, they're, uh, very molasses.

Ryan: No, I'm rock killing you right here. 

Kyla: No, it's 

Bella: great. 

Kyla: It's great. It's great. It's great. It's great. 

Bella: Okay. Are you ready? Here we go. 

Kyla: Alright, 

Bella: we're ready. Okay. It's rapid honey. 

Kyla: Rapid . 

Bella: Yeah, that's on you. 

Ryan (2): It's on you, man. I'm not, I'm, this is not on me. 

Kyla: This me. Okay. Poutine or ketchup Chips. 

Bella: Oh, poutine 

Kyla: favorite Tim Horton's order.

Actually scrambled eggs. [00:37:00] No way. 

Ryan: I didn't know you could get scrambled eggs, okay? 

Kyla: Oh dear. Which Canadian city has the best vibe? 

Ryan: Well, hold on. With Tim Hortons. Okay. You didn't know you could get scrambled eggs? Well, stay tuned. Anyway, go on. Carry on. 

Kyla: Oh, okay. 

Ryan: Okay. Yeah. Canadian city with the best vibe.

Canadian City with the best vibe. Vancouver, come on man, Vancouver's totally got the best vibe. Not Regina? Regina? Not a bad vibe though. I mean, I put it into Deadpool. I made it, that's sort of a, you know, Regina, which rhymes with fun. 

Lyle: You know, I was going to say, Tyler's going to be proud of us because we hadn't made a Regina joke yet, and it's been brought up about four times.

Bella: But 

Lyle: now we've done it. No, there you go, yeah, no. We finally, we 

Ryan: nailed it, right? Yeah. 

Kyla: Hockey or curling? 

Ryan: Ooh, I would say curling because that's a growth industry. I don't know. I feel like curling has room to go. Like there's a story there that we haven't yet heard. And, uh, I'd say curling. I love [00:38:00] hockey, but I would say curling.

Kyla: Well, I will let Hayley know that, as she'll be a guest on my podcast. Yeah, 

Ryan: yeah, I'm sure I'll be. Nothing like a rough ice skate to the head. Anyway, carry on. 

Kyla: Most Canadian thing you've done lately? 

Ryan: Oh, I don't know. I, I think it's just, I, I, I'm, I apologize all the time. And I, I don't, even when it's like, what are you apologizing for?

You know, it's, I don't know. It's a, I, I think I need to stop doing that. I, I just, we'll, yeah, start with, uh, I'm so sorry. That's probably the most Canadian, uh, thing I've done. Oh, actually I went to the Royal Canadian Mint. Oh. That's the most Canadian thing I've done lately. I, my, I took my daughter to the Royal Canadian Mint because she'd always wanted to see it, and that my dad, um, my dad was, you know, he was a cop and a food broker, you know, he wasn't like a guy who, of means, but he, he did always, I have three older brothers, for the four boys, every year he would send away to the Royal Canadian Mint for this, I don't know, it was like 10 bucks or 15 bucks, but like a, the [00:39:00] coins, that year's coins that were never touched by human, they were sold in plastic or whatever.

And, uh, That's kind of like the main thing I still have of his. I don't have anything else from my dad except those coins. 

Bella: So 

Ryan: my five year old who ran in here a second ago, she, um, she, it means a lot to her because I kind of explained it to her. So then I had to go to Ottawa. So I said, let's, do you want to come with me?

And I said, let's go for a tour at the Royal Canadian Mint. So we went and saw, and it was actually like 10 times cooler and more fascinating than I ever would have guessed. And we had a ball. I would say that was a pretty Canadian. 

Kyla: That's very Canadian. Yeah. Yeah. They're hitting 

Ryan: you with the rapid fire answers here, aren't they?

Kyla: What? No, it's good. You're good. What's the first thing you do when you land back in Canada? 

Ryan: Oh, I don't know, when the first thing I do when I land back in Canada, I just like immediately gravitate, I'm, I, food always, right, like I'll immediately think of like the, there's a Jamaican patty place that's like near where I grew up, and kids, I'll [00:40:00] immediately want to go there, I'll just think of like all those hallmarks.

That, when I was a kid, that, you know, I had a paper route and I would, you know, I only had a paper route because my parents never bought, like, sweets, like, we didn't have, you know, like, for boys, I mean, it's brutal, like, our milk was powdered milk and you would make it because it was, if you, for boys, they'll bankrupt you 

Bella: with 

Ryan: milk alone.

So, I would, I got a paper route just to have sweets, so I had a paper route and I would go, uh, to Safeway. Uh, well at the time it was Woodward's, now you guys, I'm older than you, so, uh, and I would go, I would go get a Long John, you know, the chocolate donut thing. Oh, yeah. Uh, here, they're not called that here.

Um, and I, yeah, that was like, so I still, like, think about that even though that place is gone now. Uh, yeah. 

Kyla: Yeah. Yeah. Okay, I'm going to shorten it now because you made that very long answer. 

Ryan: It's my fault. I had like 15 minutes, which was like 30 minutes ago. But I, I didn't 

Kyla: have time. I was 

Ryan: going to 

Kyla: say, [00:41:00] do you still have time?

I feel like I don't want to take too much of your time. Um, what do you think was Taylor Swift's favorite show in Canada? What city? 

Ryan: Oh, what city? 

Kyla: Let me rephrase that. I didn't get to, 

Ryan: I didn't get to see the Toronto or Vancouver. I think it was just those two venues, right? I think it was, yeah. Was there much, 

Kyla: do think she, do you think she preferred her Canadian spots over all the other ones in the world?

I 

Ryan: think, I think that she, I, my guess is, and this is total, uh, conjecture. I, but I would say, 'cause I didn't, I, I didn't ask which. City because the vibe in Canada is the thing I love. Like I love being in Toronto. I always prefer going to Vancouver as a group there, but at Montreal, I spent a long time notice here.

Um, but I, I would think Vancouver because it was the last stop and I know that, that, that, that show was kind of like a one of one. I mean, I, I, I, you know, I, I'd, I'd see it. [00:42:00] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I think I imagined it was emotional as hell because they were that whole, the production value alone and what, what goes into making something.

that spectacular and dynamic yet also weirdly intimate. I, I don't know, I would have been a sobbing mess if I, if I possessed even one thousandth of the talent that she does. And I, without a tour like that. Yeah. 

Kyla: What was your last text to Blake? 

Ryan: That's a good question. 

Bella: Let's take a look. 

Ryan: Let me see here.

Spelled B L A K. My last text was a picture of my daughter, Nezzy, who had a hoodie on. And, and, and Nez looks like a cross between like, The haunted kid in flatliners and the Unabomber, and she's looking at me with a little stank eye, and I just wrote stank eye. 

Kyla: [00:43:00] Okay, best prank you've pulled on somebody. I 

Ryan (3): don't, I don't 

Kyla: know.

I haven't 

Ryan (3): pulled a lot of pranks. You haven't pranked 

Kyla: now? Not even on Hugh? 

Hilarious Office Pranks and Crazy Glue StoriesHilarious Office Pranks and Crazy Glue Stories

Kyla: No. 

Ryan: Well, I mean, Hugh, Hugh is his own human prank. So, no, I don't know. You know what I did once, though? Uh, my friend who I mentioned earlier, who, who, who, who passed away, Eric Gilliland, was one of the most funny, charming, hilarious people I've ever known.

I used to, I used to paint chunks of his office when he was away. So I would just paint, like, a huge, one wall hot pink. And then I would glue, crazy glue, a lot of the, like, pencils and things into the desk. When you draw, when you sort of pull them out, I would, um, crazy glue everything in there, actually. I really like it.

And I, when I worked at Safeway, I used to work in a grocery store about midnight to 8am. And, you know, you would be Cutting with those X Acto knives, all the boxes open and facing out the shelves. And you sometimes would [00:44:00] just take your finger and like the X Acto knife, the razor would go right through it.

That was when I first, my first flirt, flirtation with Krazy Glue. We would pour it in the cut. And then hold it closed and it would actually work like a charm. And now there's like, you know, that glue adhesive. I think that's crazy glue. I don't know. I think they got into that. Those 

Lyle: were 

Ryan: legitimate pranks though, hey?

Yeah, those were legit. I'm surprised you didn't put a stapler in jello. Yeah, the other one is, um, is if you can get access to someone's car, you put those huge chrome testicles on the back, which is just so like, ugh, really, dude? Um, yeah, but like something like that, um, you know, I used to live in LA 15 years ago, and so everyone has a car, so it was just, that was a good one.

Lyle: My friends, uh, they threw, they put like Oil or something on my front windshield wipers. And then they threw some snow on. [00:45:00] And so I'm like, oh, I'll, I'll uh, you know, wipe it off and it smeared all the oil on the windshield. Drive home. I was 17. Wait, 

Ryan: hold on. That's not a prank. That's a dick move. what I do?

old 86. 

High School Shenanigans and Family FunHigh School Shenanigans and Family Fun

Ryan: Did you know, what I learned in high school the hard way is that, you know, myself and maybe four or five, six, seven or eight friends, uh, one of the teacher's cars was like a Volkswagen Bug. We lifted it up and moved it down the block, just as a kind of a prank. But it turns out that if you do that and you move it more than ten feet, you've stolen it.

Ryan (2): Stop. Yeah. He stole it. He stole it. 

Ryan: Yeah. So anyway, I started my career at my second high school after that and it was, yeah. That's great. It would take a few hours. Or felony. Whatever you want to call it. It's a fine line, isn't 

Kyla: it? Yeah. Uh, favorite family activity? [00:46:00]

Ryan: Favorite family activity? Uh, charades. We do a lot of charades with our kids.

Uh, we do, we're trying to like not do screen time, even though you kind of want to sometimes just go like, here, enjoy. Don't, uh, yeah, you, you know, you, you, on a plane or a long car ride, we'll do that. But charades we love. And then lately, karaoke. Oh yeah, I'm not a singer, but it's like, it's just, it's so interactive, and they express themselves so much more, uh, uh, when they have like a stage for a second, even though the stage is not a stage, it's just sort of like kitchen, um, but it's that, I love that, yeah.

Heartfelt Reflections on Family and FameHeartfelt Reflections on Family and Fame

Kyla: Yeah, yeah, and do you, final, final rapid fire, do you, do your kids think you're cool or embarrassing? 

Ryan: That's a good question. Um, I think it's both. I think, you know, you know, we're, uh, uh, you know, in the public eye, it's a weird, uh, that's a, I don't know what that's like. I mean, my, I didn't grow up [00:47:00] around that kind of thing.

And so I know it's, it's a little odd at school, but it's, it goes through phases, right? So, I mean, I mean, last second grade is tough. They get kind of like, Yeah. Their lip gets tight, like, you know, when you're, like, it's basically the subconsciously saying like, Don't, like, hug and smother me with kisses right now.

Like, I, please, just, like, release me into this, like, hellscape of school. Um, there's a bit of that. And then, You know, I, I, yeah, over the summer, a lot of the kids, even though they were way, way, way too young, had watched, um, Deadpool and Wolverine, so it made a bit of, uh, you know, uh, my, yeah, my older, oldest daughter's very, she's not shy, but she's, She'll, when she feels safe, she'll perform and have, like, be gregarious, but she is a little bit like I was when I was a kid.

She's like a skin covered antenna. She sort of, like, feels everything and sees too much sometimes. Like, you [00:48:00] can't, you can't hide anything from her. Like, if I, she'll know if I'm stressed. She'll know if I'm happy. She'll know if I'm relaxed. She'll know, and same with, um, uh, my wife. So, um, yeah, they're, I would say that they are.

proud, in some ways, and in other ways, uh, like, embarrassed like any kid would be around their parents. And then also, they don't have the, the objectivity on like, why people might give us attention more than maybe another parent, or, you know, that's all, that's an ongoing thing, like, I don't know. That I don't know how to handle that.

Um, so why would they like I you know, it's a it's Always odd. So you just try to like demystify as much of it as possible because a lot of people have a sort of preconceived uh notion about folks in our business and There are some obviously there's some horrible people that work in any business but you know by and large the people that we've been lucky enough to work with who've been really, uh, generally [00:49:00] kind and have, you know, integrity and, and, you know, when other people and our kids see that, it's a good thing, you know?

So, um, cause like you can assume when you meet us, like anyone in this, I do it too sometimes, I still get starstruck. Like I'll, you know, I'll see someone I watched from and I, I can't speak. I'm like an idiot. Just literally only pronounce the letter L. Uh, and I'm just, I just sound like somebody hit me in the head or something.

And then You know, but there's always that, that idea that, oh, is this, are they entitled or are they gonna feel like, I don't know, you know, you never know, right? And then, so I always feel like someone might be thinking that and I'm so Canadian, I overcompensate uh, all the way over backwards until my own head is so far up my ass, I come back out my own mouth and uh, and reenter the uh, the conversation.

Kyla: I remember it there. I forget what post it was on. 

A Touching Tribute to Bella and Final ThoughtsA Touching Tribute to Bella and Final Thoughts

Kyla: It might have been one of my Instagram posts, uh, of you, and I shared a clip of you and Bella at SickKids, and Blake made a hilarious troll comment, [00:50:00] uh, like she's like, she's like trolling you, and someone had said, wait a minute. Bella's meeting the celebrity, not Ryan meeting Bella.

And I'm like, yeah. She's like, yeah, that checks. 

Ryan: I mean, I'm meeting the celebrity Bella, uh, yeah. And definitely not the other way around. But that's like, that is kind of, you know, how it should feel and how it kind of is. She, she really captured. The heart of a lot of people and, you know, she has, you guys obviously put really good stuff in her, uh, to be that person, you know, and I, and that's not easy, you know, what you've navigated is, um, uh, unimaginable and unthinkable for most people and, you know, um, but also Bella was born with something different blowing through her, um, you know, and I, and you can tell right away it was like, uh, she was like, yeah, good.

Had the wisdom of, you know, somebody who's a, uh, a sixth generation grandma. 

Bella: Uh, 

Ryan: but also the sense of humor of like a young Richard Pryor. [00:51:00] Um, so it was like, you know, it was very, very unique and someone that I'll never, ever forget. You know, I can literally see her on 3D, uh, uh, right now. And I'm really glad that I got to I got to meet her.

I realized that we were lucky to, to, to meet because we had only had a finite window, you know, she was only, uh, visiting here for, you know, way too brief a, a moment, you know, so. 

Kyla: Yeah, thanks Ryan. Well, uh, before. I, we all say goodbye to my permagran. Uh, do you, I have one like, I have one kind of like closing question, but I also want to invite you to ask us anything you, you 

Ryan: want to, if you 

Kyla: have a chance.

Yeah. 

Ryan: Do you want to go first or do you want me to go? 

Kyla: You go. If you have any questions. Uh. Go ahead. Yeah. 

Ryan: Um, what do you, this is maybe, I don't want to, I'm not trying to like, choke you up or anything, but what, what do you, what's the thing that you miss most about, about, uh, [00:52:00] Bella? 

Kyla: Oh, for me, I miss, is it okay if I go?

Yeah, okay, of course it is. I miss the way she, she was so in tune with my feelings. I wouldn't even have to speak and she would know what I was thinking and what I was feeling and then she'd know how to help me with it. Whether it was a hug or out of nowhere just looking at me. She'd say, Mom, it's going to be okay.

I'm here. I'm with you. Just breathe. She'd start coaching me like she was my teacher and it amazed me every time. 

Ryan: Yeah, yeah, that's but that that is if I can just interject and Lyle I can't wait to hear your answer But I that that mechanism is the same Thing that made her funny. It's, it's, it's being able to jump into someone else's, uh, perspective, uh, read them and then say something that might, you know, um, heal them or make them laugh or make them feel, you know, it's a, so I think it's a sign of real emotional intelligence as well.

Um, and I could see that [00:53:00] when I, when I met her. Lisa Cherendoff, who's my connection, my main connection at SickKids Foundation. Um, you know, she, she had spoken a lot about how Bella's influence and, um, and personality and vibe had permeated the whole hospital there. And, 

Lyle: you 

Ryan: know, I got to see that up close.

Lyle: I loved her, uh, she always had commentary on anything. And it goes along to kind of what you were just saying, too, where she would always You knew how she was feeling, and you know what she thought of what she thought. Like, you walked in and she's like, Nah, dad, you gotta change. Or something like that, constantly she'd do that.

Or when you'd go to a nice fancy restaurant, which she loved. I loved taking her out to places, and she's like, Yeah, this, this is a good vibe. This is, this is where I want to be right now. She's like, I like this spot. Can I have that corner over there? And it's just, she always had a really good vibe, and she was always making Commentary.

On what he's exposing. It's 

Ryan: nice about knowing where you [00:54:00] stand with someone. There's not enough of that in the world, right? You have all sorts of relationships where you find out, like, somebody's been upset with you for six months, but you I'm not psychic. Tell me! Um, but I, I love it when you meet people who really let you know exactly what they're feeling in the moment.

And, you know, that way you can kind of address it. 

Lyle: Yeah, 

Kyla: yeah. Do you have any questions for Ryan before? 

Lyle: Uh, no, I think you, you questioned him enough. 

Kyla: Did I question, did I question you enough, Ryan? I'm 

Ryan: so, I feel perfect, like it wasn't meant to be the Spanish Inquisition. I only have 15 minutes, but I've now 

Bella: Uh, I'm 

Ryan: also, I'm also that, uh, you know, that other Canadian thing where I feel like, like absolute shit if I, if, if I'm late for something, but I did text, secretly sneaky text them while we were talking.

That I'm going to be late and uh, and then yeah, and then I'm, I'm here to disappoint them. So 

Kyla: yeah, okay, that's great. I have one final, uh, if you catch the pun, this is wonderful. I love puns. [00:55:00] Uh, Bella had a big dream to be in a SickKids commercial, as you do. Uh, so I would love to put my hat in the ring for the next one.

I promise to bring my A game and my Marvel less talent. 

Ryan: Oh, so, hey, come on, like the water's warm. The water is warm. I mean, the SickKids Foundation is like one of those businesses, those rare businesses that you, it's success is to be out of business. You know, so, uh, I'm hoping that I don't have to make commercials for the rest of them, but my guess is that I probably will.

And I would love to have you, have you on because Frankly, I am completely and totally fucking running out of ideas. This year I just, this year I straight up cheated. I was just like, I need the Deadpool suit. I need, uh, Kidpool. I need, uh, another superhero, uh, and, uh, and help. Because, yeah, there are only so many things you can do [00:56:00] with a bright green, red, and gold, uh, sweater.

Before you kind of start scratching your head and trying to let them down this year. 

Kyla: We got some time now. I will start thinking for you and I will help. I will help with that. 

Ryan: Please, accept any and all, any and all pitches, although not on the internet. People do that all the time. You'll be a great movie, and then if someone makes it and you didn't happen to, you know, catch that, you're, you're in trouble.

Yep, you're out. Don't pitch anything. Don't pitch it to someone who can make it. Um, oh, I want to say one thing before I go, though. Uh, uh, I don't know if you've read it. I don't know if you care to. I, you guys have your own, uh, uh, You know, journey in this, and I don't pretend to know anything about it other than you have raised a wonderful, incredible, uh, kid that I was lucky enough to meet, but, um, my friend Rob Delaney, I don't know if you know him, he plays Peter in, uh, in, uh, Deadpool, you know, I'm saying right now, Lyle, you look like you could kind of sub in for him if necessary.

Um, But, [00:57:00] uh, Rob lost a, uh, a child, uh, Henry, at two, uh, two years old, and, and he, he, I, you know, he wrote a book that I thought was really beautiful called A Heart That Works. Um, you know, kind of about grief, but Rob's also a comedian. You know, he's a very, like, dark, you know, subversive comedian packaged in this sort of Ned Flanders.

Like, you know, and that's what makes him so interesting, and it made me a fan of him before I ever got to work with him. But anyway, he wrote a book that I thought was really beautiful and like hard, I can imagine, to read. And he shouldered something that I'm sure you guys do, which is that you probably are met by a lot of grief from other people.

You'll probably find other people finding you who have lost someone, and that is, uh, in and of itself, a really tricky and hard thing to carry because you're carrying your own already. Um, and I know Rob can feel like that sometimes where, you know Especially when you write a book about it, and suddenly people reach out all over the place, and [00:58:00] that's not, I know that's not easy, so I just was going to say, it's a work to read, but um, it's also, uh, uh, it's also a means to sort of get to that thought, which is that I'm sure, you know, I'm sure you guys, uh, and one of the reasons I like to do this stuff for parents as much as kids is, it's a lot.

Yeah, it's a lot. 

Kyla: Yeah, no, we appreciate it. Thank you. Definitely. 

Ryan: Yeah Well, hopefully you'll have a some big hollywood stud on here next I don't know maybe jackman or someone who knows, uh Or as liberal with his time as I was 

Kyla: Well, you're welcome to pimp us out, like, however you'd like 

Ryan: to. I, yes, I, let's, let's get into the digital, uh, sex trade.

And I will, yeah, the, the, the head on show of, uh, what was that game? How, I'm much older than you, Leisure Suit Larry, was that the game? Well, I remember it, yeah. All these things where now you'd be like, Oh, you're going to jail if you make a game like that. You know, like I said, you know. Yeah, it was great. [00:59:00] Oh, these issues, right?

Yeah, probably. The 80s. Um, 80s and 90s. Um, Too hungry to stay still anymore. My tummy's got, like, chunks of ground on it. It ain't big twice now. Oh, yeah. No, no, that's fine. I've had that. We're on a movie where you're, you're mic'd, right? And they're like, can you just, do you mind just having a, uh, a cookie?

Yeah. Yeah, I did 

Kyla: hear it. That was recorded. 

Ryan: You're welcome. Well, guys, I loved getting to talk with you, and I, uh, um, yeah, and thank you for everything you're doing, you know, yeah. 

Kyla: And same to you, and anytime you want to venture out to Swift Current Saskatchewan, we, uh, we have an acreage, ten acres, you can house your kids, Blake, you guys, we could go tobogganing.

Ryan: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Tobogganing in Saskatchewan. 

Kyla: Methinks you're lying. 

Ryan: Um, 

Kyla: Our acreage is like, we're at the top of a coulee, and [01:00:00] all around us is coulee, and then all around that is like, cropland. So we have like a little, I was 

Ryan: like gonna say, I would think like a hill would be a potential treasure.

you 

Kyla: forget, like, you need trees. I mean Why does he need proof? 

Ryan: We have Wait, Lyle, you're an arborist? No, no, no, I've been, uh, yeah, I sell trees at the black market, so we should actually get off the line and talk a little bit about our, uh That's crazy, black market tree business. 

Lyle: Wait, are you an arborist? No, I'm not an arborist, because I grow them, I don't cut them down.

Bella: Yeah. 

Lyle: Ahhhh. Yeah. 

Ryan: You have too many trees. When I was a kid, we did the tree planting thing, you know, I don't remember when I was a kid, like a teenager, you'd go in the summer You did that? What are you, perfect? Yeah, you, yeah, you'd fire the tree into the ground and you'd get like, it was a summer job, it was like a, you know.

Makes sense for a tree, right? 

Lyle: Yeah. Oh yeah. No, I don't do that. Well, we, I grow 'em, but I grow 'em in little pots and sell 'em. And pot. And pot. It's fun. Well, you sell weed. Okay, good. That's what [01:01:00] everyone, and I'm like, why aren't I not just doing that? 

Ryan: That'd be a lot easier. Yeah, right. I don't, no one smokes your trees, so you're just kind of Yeah, they're trees.

Proper. Proper trees. Alright, good. Is it what the business called, Ryan? What's your business called? 

Ryan (2): Oh, swift Tree Center. Oh, swift 

Ryan: Tree Center. Yeah. Okay. Hey, uh, it's Ryan Reynolds and you're, you're, uh, you're watching the, the, the Beyond Brave podcast brought to you by Swift Tree Center. You're, uh, all your needs, uh, met.

They're at Swift Tree Center. Uh, they will get you trees and they'll do it swiftly. Check your local listings. 

Kyla: We have our commercials. We're done. That was 

Ryan: awesome. Okay, I gotta go. Uh, I will, uh, I will talk to you guys again, I hope, sooner rather than later, and, um, you know, again, sending you all, all my, all my love and my best, and I know it's an ongoing thing you guys are doing, but, um, yeah, I, I'm glad that you, you can share and talk about it as well, because it helps, I'm sure it helps a lot of people.

Thank you. 

Kyla: Take [01:02:00] care, Ryan. 

Ryan: Thanks, guys. Appreciate it. Bye. 

Ryan (2): Thank you very much. I love playing Pikachu. It's the one movie I've done that my kids can watch. I 

Bella (2): watched it before, too. 

Ryan (2): Yeah. 

Bella (2): I like 

Ryan (2): it. All the other ones I've done are just naughty, and I can't really show my kids those ones. They're all rated R.

But that's the one. I have that one at 

Bella (2): least. Is Evie in the movie? She's my favorite. Yes, 

Ryan (2): she is. She's in the movie, yeah. 

Bella (2): She's my favorite. 

Ryan (2): Yeah, I love the, um, the, uh, water one. What's the water one? The water Pokemon. The one that like, something carp. 

Bella (2): I don't 

Ryan (2): know. No. What's my favorite one? Magikarp.

Magikarp! Nice! You're such a nerd! Love it! Love it! I love it. You knew Magikarp. Oh, that's 

Ryan (3): cool. How you doing? 

Bella (2): Good. 

Ryan (3): Yeah? How do they treat you here at SickKids? How 

Bella (2): are 

Ryan (3): your girls? They're good. My girls are great. 

Ryan (2): My girls [01:03:00] are great. 

Bella (2): Have they been playing any video 

Ryan (2): games? Uh, none of them play video games. 

Bella (2): I have this really fun.

Disney Dreamlike Valley game on my 

Ryan (2): Switch. It's 

Bella (2): kinda 

Ryan (2): like 

Bella (2): the new Zelda game, only Disney themed. It 

Ryan (3): was like Disney 

Bella (2): characters and 

Ryan (3): stuff. 

Bella (2): Disney Dreamlike Valley. 

Ryan (3): And you 

Bella (2): get to do, like, quests, and, and unlock Disney characters and all of that stuff. 

Ryan (2): Like Zelda. Zelda used to do that. I played Zelda all the time when I was a kid.

Bella (2): Oh. 

Ryan (2): Daddy plays. I must. Daddy plays 

Bella (2): like the noob. Zelda game 24 7. Oh, really? 

Ryan (2): Because they're so immersive, right? See, I 

Bella (2): actually bought it from mom. 

Ryan (2): Oh, right. That's a classic dad move right there, yeah. Yeah, I was thinking of buying my wife a motorcycle. No, no. See, that's just what dads do. They buy, they buy gifts that they really want.

Right? That's their sneaky trick. Yeah. How's it been in SickKids? This [01:04:00] place is pretty great, huh? 

Bella: Good. 

Ryan (2): I love this place. I think it's awesome. Awesome people work here. 

Bella: Yeah, 

Ryan (2): they do magic. We just shot a commercial downstairs. 

Bella (2): What? 

Ryan (2): Yeah. 

Bella (2): Cool. 

Ryan (2): For, for SickKids, yeah. I do a, uh, uh, like a SickKids Ugly Sweater Campaign every year.

I don't know if you've seen it. We just did it here. There it is. Maybe 

Ryan (3): you'll put it on. There's my 

Ryan (2): hideous, ugly sweater. 

Ryan (3): It would look better with some glitter. Yeah, I 

Ryan: know. 

Ryan (3): It would look a 

Ryan: lot, it would look a lot better on fire, really. Um, it's, yeah, it's just about the ugliest sweater I've ever seen. And some glitter.

Some fire and some glitter. It'd be a nice 

Ryan (3): trash can. I don't know. Yeah. So what, how long have you been in, in here right now? When did you guys get here? 

Kyla: Since Can you take a guess? Since We've been here a while, hey? I can't remember. Well, we've been coming since 2020. 

Ryan (3): So 2020. Since she got listed for her transplant.

Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And did Bella, did you have the transplant [01:05:00] yet? 

Bella (2): Uh, yep. 

Ryan (3): And how'd it go? 

Bella (2): Good. 

Ryan (3): All good? 

Bella (2): I can walk. You 

Ryan (2): can walk. That's nice. That's got to feel good. I'm 

Bella (2): going to gym today. 

Ryan (2): Yeah. How do you handle that when you go in for a big surgery? When 

Bella (2): I went to gym yesterday, I went into the little gym, and they had like this, uh, It was so much fun.

Ryan (3): Really? Cause I 

Bella (2): love swings. Is 

Ryan (3): it indoor gym or outdoor? 

Bella (2): Indoor. 

Ryan (3): Okay. Wow. And how do you, when you, when you have to go for like, like a surgery like that, whether you're in a transplant, is it scary or is it like exciting? Or are you nervous? Are you like cool as a cucumber? How do you, 

Bella (2): how do 

Ryan (3): you handle that?

Bella (2): Uh, meh. 

Ryan (3): I like that attitude. That's good. So you're just kind of like, let's do it. 

Bella (2): Yeah, 

Ryan (3): let's do it to it. 

Ryan (2): Now you can walk and that must feel so good, right? So freeing. You 

Bella (2): can 

Ryan (2): eat now. God, I don't know what I'd do without food. Isn't that so good? Even hostile food, I'll take it. [01:06:00] What's your favorite kind of food?

Bella (2): Uh, I really like their, uh, sandwiches. 

Ryan: The sandwiches here? Any other, like, if you could have anything, you could eat anything anywhere in the world at any time, what would it be? It wouldn't be the sandwiches here. Or would it? 

Ryan (2): What? Too good. What kind of sandwiches are they? Uh, 

Bella (2): Um, the roast beef. The roast beef 

Ryan (2): buns.

With lettuce and fat free mayo. I went to the mall 

Bella (2): yesterday. I 

Ryan (2): got 

Bella (2): these 

Ryan (2): glasses. 

Bella (2): They're blue light glasses. 

Ryan (3): Oh, so for when you're playing your game. That's nice. They look great on you. They're beautiful. They match your shirt perfectly. [01:07:00] Oh, I love that. Who is this? 

Bella (2): Is this an LOL? I got her at Indigo, and yeah.

Ryan (3): An LOL doll? 

Ryan (2): My kids love LOL 

Bella (2): dolls. Same. I'm like an LOL nerd. 

Ryan (2): Yeah, yeah, they are too. It's very easy to get nerdy about that. And then my oldest daughter always steals these. And these I just have for sick kids. But when I come to the sick kids hospital. 

Bella (2): I also have 

Ryan (2): a makeup kit. 

Bella (2): No 

Ryan (3): way. I got this. Clothes.

If I didn't have to go shoot something else, I'd have you do my makeup. Get my 

Bella (2): necklace. Get my necklace and I also got this. You want to put it on? You know 

Ryan (3): the Sinclairs? 

Bella (2): Yes. Not just any old necklace. Not any old one. You want an eye? Okay. 

Ryan (2): No, that is not just any old necklace. Is that a locket? Come on. Did you 

Kyla: decide where you're going to put it in yet?

Ryan (3): That is sweet. They have Claire's in Canada? Uh huh. I didn't know [01:08:00] that. This is the only bead. 

Bella (2): I've never actually got to find like an actual like, um, thing that has a bead on it. Mmm. 

Ryan (2): Uh 

Bella (2): huh. 

Ryan (2): That's true, yeah. But this, 

Bella (2): I'm so glad I found. 

Ryan (2): Do you know, I have a daughter, her name is Betty. Uh huh. And we always look for stuff with a bead on it as well.

Bella: Same. 

Ryan (2): Yeah. She has all kinds of nicknames though. Dirty Rat. Buzz. We call her Buzz as well. We call her Bebe. We call her Bee. What else do we call her? Mostly Dirty Rat though. 

Bella (2): Mommy calls me Bug. Bug? 

Ryan (2): Well that's much cuter. Much cuter than Dirty Rat. I'm outing myself as parent of the year over here. Wow.

It's sure nice meeting you. I'm really glad that I got to come and say hello. I'm going to leave this with you as well. Because I know you're dying to wear an ugly, ugly sweater like that one day. I'm not dying to wear it. I know you're not. I know you're not. Maybe you have a friend that will, though. Do you want to take [01:09:00] a couple pictures or something?

I 

Bella (2): don't think Tyler wants 

Ryan (2): to wear 

Bella (2): that. Don't what? I don't 

Ryan (2): think Tyler wants to wear 

Kyla: that. No. Who's 

Ryan (2): Tyler? Tyler. 

Kyla: Tyler. Tyler. Tyler. Tyler. Or transplant breast tissue. Oh, 

Ryan (2): Tyler might want to wear it. You never know. 

Bella: I 

Ryan (2): don't think 

Ryan (3): so. One person's ugly sweater, the other person's vulgar. You just never know.

Can we grab a quick picture? That'd be good. Yeah. All right. I'm gonna slide over here.

Kyla: Well, that just happened. I just interviewed Ryan Reynolds. That was a wild ride. I'm super excited. And thank you guys for making it all the way to the end of another episode of Beyond Brave. I'm really happy you're here. I'm really excited for more guests on this show. So if you have a chance to leave a [01:10:00] comment, or a suggestion of who you would like to see next on the show, I am going to give it my best shot to get them on.

Also, if you haven't had a chance yet to rate, review, like, subscribe, that is much appreciated for our Beyond Brave. And check out the show notes for any links and information you aren't aware of. But I, you know, like, if you're not already following Ryan Reynolds, I mean, Do you do you exist? Are you here on planet earth?

Um, and apart from that just thank you again Um, i'm all flustered now because I just did an interview with ryan reynolds Anyways, please stay brave. Take care 

Bella: [01:11:00] You